Tablesaw dust collection with shop vac

Tablesaw dust collector
Tablesaw dust collector

Many woodworkers have dust collection systems, which use suction and large pipes and hoses to collect sawdust and other particles from power tools.  For the hobbyist, these systems can be affordable, below $1000 for a decent system.  Naturally, I therefore wondered what I could accomplish with my old shop vacuum, some junk from the garbage can, and about 20 bucks.

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The basic premise is to collect sawdust, trimmings, and other particles as close to the source of production as possible.  Many power tools come with dust collection ports built in to them these days.  My 1950s PowrKraft table saw did not, so I set out to create a dust collector for it.

The Tablesaw

Common plastic bucket and my assistant Stanley
Common plastic bucket and my assistant Stanley

My tablesaw was not designed for vacuum collection of sawdust, so it has quite a few openings which needed to be covered.  The underside of the saw is open, with a sheet-metal rim around the inside.  This made a good place to attach a collection hood.  I fabricated one from a rectangular plastic bucket made from HDPE (high-density polyethylene) plastic, the most common type used in common buckets and consumer packaging.

Door open
Door open

Since the bucket had a hinged snap-on lid, I turned the bucket upside down and used the lid as the bottom of the dust hood.  The lid then became an access door to the underside of the saw.  I used the heat gun to bend the sides of the bucket and weld on extra corner tabs, creating flanges to sit on the rim of the saw opening.

Tubing

Hood and tubes
Hood and tubes

For the dust-collection tubing, I took the cheap route.  I used 3-inch water drainage tubing and 1.5-inch sump pump tubing, both from the local home improvement warehouse store.

Spreader
Spreader

Neither one of the tubing sizes I used matches the hose of my shop vac at 2.5 inches, so I needed some adaptors.  Several different plastic jars from peanut butter and applesauce turned out to be very close to the correct size.  The opening on the applesauce jar was just a little too small, so I made a spreader jig with some wooden wedges between some nuts and washers.  When one of the nuts is tightened, the washers squeeze the wedges, forcing them outward.  I wrapped the wooden wedges in a piece of sheet metal from a tin vegetable can, and placed the mouth of the jar over it.  By softening the jar mouth with the heat gun, and tightening the nut, I was able to expand the jar to fit the vacuum hose just right.  I attached the 3-inch tubing to a hole I cut in the bottom of the jar on the other end, making a nice hose adaptor.

Back, inside
Back, inside

Front view
Front view

What’s That Noise?!

I put two dust collection points into the tablesaw collector:  the large main 3-inch hose in the collector hood, and a second 1.5-inch hose to pick up stray sawdust from the top of the table.  I attached them together with a Y-connection made from a plastic peanut butter jar.  The 1.5-inch hose came out of the side of the jar, but I heated and warped the jar to make a Y connector for better airflow through the smaller hose.

The first time I turned on the shop vacuum with this setup, I got a big surprise.  In addition to the usual loud shop vac whine, I got an additional loud piercing whistle noise from the 1.5-inch hose.  Some Internet research told me this was a “standing wave” harmonic vibration, caused by the uniform ridges in the hose.  The factory did an accurate job of creating all of the ridges in the hose the same.  When air passes through the hose, the ridges cause the air to vibrate at the same frequency all along the hose, causing a single tone to come out.  It’s one big whistle.

Ironically, my web search efforts revealed much about how to produce such a noise, but not how to surpress it.  However, some thought and experimentation led to a simple answer:  If the uniform ridges make the whistling noise, making them non-uniform should eliminate it.  I heated the hose with the heat gun, and stretched it by different amounts at different points along the hose.  It didn’t take much stretching to disrupt the harmonic effect, eliminating the shriek and producing quieter air flow.

Particle Separator

Pre-separator bucket
Pre-separator bucket
Underside of lid
Underside of lid

I use the tablesaw to cut both wood and plastic at different times.  I want to keep the two separated so the wood sawdust can be used for composting, without being contaminated by plastic pieces.

I made a pre-separator to collect the wood sawdust using a 5-gallon paint bucket.  The separator bucket sits between the tablesaw and the shop vac.  Scraps and larger sawdust particles settle to the bottom of the bucket, while the air and fine dust pass through to the vacuum.  It is patterened after professional cyclone separators, where the incoming airflow is directed towards the side of the cylinder and the air exit is in the center.  As the particles are blown towards the sides, they lose velocity and swirl down to the bottom.

There are just a few parts to the separator.  The vacuum port (air exit) has a tube going down the center of the cylinder, which I made from a clear plastic applesauce jar with a mouth sized to the 2.5-inch vacuum hose, screwed into the bucket lid .  The intake port goes to a deflector which sends the air towards the inside wall of the bucket.  The intake port is a snap-on connector for the drain tubing, and the deflector is a scrap of plastic.  Since the tube connector, deflector, and bucket lid are all HDPE plastic, I welded them together with the heat gun.   I also cut a window into the side of the bucket, to indicate how full it is.

Now when I cut wood, I plug the vacuum in to the separator, and my wood cuttings are collected in the bucket.  If I want to cut plastic, I bypass the separator and suck the plastic scraps right into the shop vac.

Airborne dust filter

Airborne dust filter
Airborne dust filter

To reduce airborne free-floating dust, I employed a trick which I saw recently in a home improvement magazine.  I took a normal household box fan, and attached a furnace filter onto the intake side of the fan.   I took the plastic grill off the intake side of the fan and reattached it with spacers and longer screws, allowing me to simply slide the furnace filter into the slot.  It works quite effectively, producing a nice brown circle on the filter in no time at all.  This is good, showing dust that is not getting inhaled or settling on everything else.

Welding plastic with a heat gun

Common plastic bucket and my assistant Stanley As a handyman and hobbyist, I find there are many everyday plastic objects that can be used to make interesting things.  Some of the most common useful plastics, such as high-density polyethylene (HDPE) and polypropylene (PP) just cannot be glued.  But they can be welded with hot air.  You may be surprised at what you can make with an old plastic bucket and a heat gun from the discount tool store.

 

There are tools designed specifically for proper welding of plastics, for production of plastic water tanks, piping, and many other industrial purposes.  Many of these tools are somewhat expensive and require compressed air or other gasses.  I’m focusing instead on a cheap, hobby substitute for the proper tools. 

This method works well for HDPE and PP plastics, which won’t accept glue.  If a type of plastic accepts glue well, such as polystyrene, acrylic or polycarbonate, use glue instead. 

These plastics melt at a temperature around 500 degrees Farenheit.  Needless to say, this will burn you. Wear gloves such as leather welding gloves, or at least heavy leather gardening gloves.

The Project

Pattern for rimI set out to create a dust collection hood for the underside of my tablesaw.  I used the top section of a rectangular HDPE plastic bucket with a snap-on hinged lid.  Using an angled cross-section gave me a built-in slope for dust collection at the bottom.  The lid of the bucket provides an access door to the underside of the saw, for reaching in to change the belt.

 

The first step is to create a pattern for the rim of the underside of the saw.  I measured and cut a template out of cardboard, and made sure it fit the saw.  Then I could start cutting the bucket to match the template.

Welding tabsI heated and bent the sides to create the main part of the rim.  I slit the curved corner sections to make tabs.  Then I added flat corner pieces and welded them to the tabs.

 

Clamping while coolingThe best method I found to weld plastic pieces like this is to heat the two faces of the tabs or overlapping pieces until they are soft, and then press them together and let them cool.  The plastic will fuse, creating a single piece.  It is a little tricky to heat the plastic just enough, but not too much.  If you heat it too much it will simply melt and fall apart.  The main thing is to try it on a number of test pieces first, and practice.

I found that the best way to press the two parts of plastic together is between two pieces of sheet metal.  The metal will not bond to the plastic after it has cooled for thirty seconds or so, and will lift right off.

Modifying Tools 

First attempt at focused nozzleThere are many times when the tool you have available does not quite fit the task, and you need to adapt it.  This was the case in using the basic heat gun to weld plastic tabs.  The provided nozzle of the heat gun produced a fairly broad current of hot air, melting around a larger area than I wanted for welding the plastic tabs together.

 

Result: burned-out heat gunI created a funnel for the heat gun, which focused the hot air down a narrow 3/8″ tube.  This produced excellent results in focusing the heat for welding.  It also produced a significant side-effect: it choked the air output, so the inside of the heat gun overheated and melted in part.  Result: destroyed tool.  Good thing it wasn’t expensive.

 

The lesson from this is that when you modify or adapt a tool, be careful.   Every power tool should be treated with respect as a potential source of danger, and some are more dangerous than others.  It would have been easy to start a fire and perhaps burn the house down with a tool modification like this.  Be cautious in experimenting, and have safety equiment like a fire extinguisher available.

Second nozzle designIn my revised design for my replacement heat gun, I used a piece of aluminum curtain rod, with a cross-section shaped like the letter “C”.  By having a slit down the side, much of the heat goes to the tip, but the full airflow can still pass out of the heat gun nozzle so the inside of the gun does not overheat.  This did not provide as narrow a focus as the original nozzle, but it should at least save the tool from destruction.  I made up for it by simply holding another piece of sheet metal in front of areas I did not want to heat.

Spot welding attempts

Spot welding with soldering gun and screw headOne other approach I tried was spot-welding the tabs together, but I did not come up with a satisfactory technique.  The heat gun is too broad to use for this, so I tried a soldering gun instead.  You cannot simply stick the tip of the soldering gun into the plastic and melt it, because the plastic will burn and/or make a stringy mess when you pull the soldering gun out.  Like the heat gun method, you need a piece of metal to cool with the plastic, which can be removed after a minute.

I tried heating through a piece of sheet metal with the soldering gun, but didn’t have success.  It spread the heat too broadly, melting the top tab but not the bottom tab.

The best result came from heating the head of a screw with the soldering gun until it sunk into the plastic, through the top tab down to face of the bottom tab.  It did manage to melt the two tabs together, but only in a small ring around the head of the screw, with poor mechanical strength.  Based on that, I gave up on spot welding and returned to the heat gun.

Stinky PETE 

In the movie Toy Story 2, Stinky Pete appeared to be a nice guy but turned out to be trouble.  In the world of common plastics, PETE is trouble too.  PETE, polyethylene terephthalate, is the very common plastic used for all sorts of uses.  Nearly all transparent food containers and bottles, such as the 2-liter soda bottle, are made of PETE.

Like the other polyethylene plastics, PETE cannot be glued satisfactorily with any readily available glue or solvent.  It cannot be welded with a heat gun or soldering iron either.  The thin walls of common PETE packaging will shrink and warp before melting with a heat gun.  They will melt with the soldering gun, but don’t seem to fuse to other melted pieces with any strength.  Apparently PETE can be welded with industrial plastic welding equipment, but that is beyond the scope of my attempts. I’ve read that PETE can be glued with a hot-melt glue gun, and supposedly that’s how most retail labels are attached to PETE containers.  But I didn’t have any success with it; the glue just peeled off.  Contact cement and silicone sealer/caulking will hold slightly, but with poor strength, and will peel also. 

The only success I have had with PETE has been with various forms of mechanical fastening.  Screws and nuts will work if large washers are used to spread any stress.  Rivets will work also.  You can use epoxy glue through a hole, with a blob on each side.  When it hardens it is essentially a rivet. One technique I like is to cut slots and tabs, like you would with a paper model.  Fit the parts together, and then use clear packing tape on each side to hold the tabs in place.  It works fairly well.

Submitted by amillar on Thu, 2006-04-06 11:10